tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3092752484604128683.post5473167759647017039..comments2023-07-05T12:35:51.011+01:00Comments on Bad Reason: Where do EU citizens in the UK now stand? (clue: not where Daniel J Hannan says they do)Dr Michael Wardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18208273325282474983noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3092752484604128683.post-8042794855092074942017-10-06T17:15:43.516+01:002017-10-06T17:15:43.516+01:00All my claims are based an what the government hav...All my claims are based an what the government have actually said in published documents - see the links.Dr Michael Wardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18208273325282474983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3092752484604128683.post-15245480946598443852017-09-23T18:44:57.396+01:002017-09-23T18:44:57.396+01:00Thank you Michael Ward for this comprehensive stat...Thank you Michael Ward for this comprehensive state of play analysis, or rather state-of-understanding of how Brexit potentially will affect us EU residents in the UK. <br /><br />One more "trifle matter" to add to your list: duplication of costs for residence documentation. I acquired some years ago the Home Office blue card confirming my status as a long term EEA/EU resident in the UK. This at the time was "not" compulsory; in fact, it was well and truly a legal, expensive requirement for those of us who have non-EU partners, as we had to establish our own residence rights in the UK before we could sponsor a partner's visa.<br /><br />The thing cost me several thousand pounds, split between Home Office and lawyers fees. My application, back then, was refused because my 5 years' worth of salary slips had not all been repetitively translated, at £40 a sheet, from my employers' French (I used to be paid from abroad). Lawyers held firm, Home Office backed down, lawyers fees are demonstrably an unavoidable part of the cost of the procedure if your life does not strictly conform to model, and most lives don't. <br /><br />This "blue card" is now probably worthless --unless the UK Government came to see it as a perfectly reasonable way to streamline procedures and decided to swap it for the forthcoming residence permit on a like for like basis and at negligible cost. I am not holding my breath. The words cash, cow, and milking all come to mind. (Incidentally, this is one of the trifle matters that cause me to demand that the UK should pay, tit for tat, substantial amounts for access to the single market or continued participation in some EU agencies, and in order to promote that view I absolutely will use my postal vote in national and European ballots in my country of origin!).<br /><br />One word of respectful dissent from your post, if I may, about the section relating to "The right to free movement (for citizens whose families include UK citizens)". <br /><br />It is not correct, in my view, to write that "an EU Citizen with a UK spouse or with children who took up UK citizenship will -as long as he or she wishes to be accompanied by the rest of her family- lose the right to move freely in the other EU member states". That right remains established in the EU, minus the UK, under the directive on the right to free movement of EU Citizens and third-country nationals forming part of their family. The protection of the law is removed from British statute, it is not removed from the acquis communautaire. <br /><br />It is precisely that right which caused Daniel Hannan and his "not truly racist or xenophobic friends" so much aggravation. <br /><br />The substantial difference now of course is that, out of respect for the expression of their vote, "democratic" though devoid of a requirement for a qualified majority, Brits in EU law will be regarded as third-country nationals. Just like Russians and Turks. <br /><br />The irony of the new situation is priceless.<br /><br />Ter OckAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3092752484604128683.post-5780074597450335932017-09-15T14:23:11.789+01:002017-09-15T14:23:11.789+01:00Scaremongering. Do you realise how irresponsible i...Scaremongering. Do you realise how irresponsible it is to publish something like this when people are genuinely scared about their future? Most of your 'conclusions' are based off pure speculation. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3092752484604128683.post-68899634247796136162017-09-15T14:23:08.576+01:002017-09-15T14:23:08.576+01:00Scaremongering. Do you realise how irresponsible i...Scaremongering. Do you realise how irresponsible it is to publish something like this when people are genuinely scared about their future? Most of your 'conclusions' are based off pure speculation. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com